TomicTime Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Steve Edwards first told me about this during a visit to his house. I am pushing go ! on a 16 disc order. Joe Harley and RV endorsed is good enough for me !!! jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomicTime Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 OK i pushed go on the 16 disc, 3.0 process, USPS level shipping w $400 insurance. You can upgrade for more and faster if desired. Online order easy as cake ! $11 per record. I have a nitty gritty and while i lust after a Degritter, i am going to try this….. will report on findings.. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsooner Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 I built my own ultra sonic cleaner before I had to sell all my analog off (and Jim got the Basis TT). It worked so great, but there is still so much more that needs to get done that no one type of cleaning can take care of. I know Jon Spelt swears by this too and I take his recommendation in the highest regard too. Wish I could do analog so badly, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 I prefer to use Wood glue. 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gallup Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 8:17 PM, Bill said: I prefer to use Wood glue. 😆 I actually tried this. It didn't make the records any worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsooner Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 It would have if you left it I. Too long lol. Sorry. Had to. Haa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gallup Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Send off 16 records yesterday, some fairly new, some purchased used, some (including an old Chuck Berry) that survived a flooded basement. Will report on the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomicTime Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 i got my 16 back recently also after about a two week turn time including media mail shipping. I have system torn apart due to remodeling but hope to get a listen in mid week. I also sent a mix of minty and rescue vinyil, hopefully for the best. Will report as i learn and listen… Jim 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomicTime Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Fantastic ! super clean discs 😉 I can highly recommend this service. Preparing another 16 to send them after… Black Friday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Edwards Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) We all want clean records for two reasons; 1) less noise and 2) better sonics. In my experience with ultrasonic cleaning (and I do believe PFV's process is at the top of the heap), about 80% of the improvements are in the latter. There is some reduction in surface noise; but unfortunately, I think most of that noise is due to surface damage and / or pressing shortcomings. But, with every batch of records I've had cleaned by Steve at PVF, the sonic improvements were immediately noticeable; greater detail, separation and dynamics. And many of these records were already cleaned on my VPI Cyclone. Play on Edited November 23, 2021 by Steve Edwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Gallup Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Steve Edwards said: There is some reduction in surface noise; but unfortunately, I think most of that noise is due to surface damage and / or pressing shortcomings. This was my experience too. Old, beat-up records didn't miraculously sound clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomicTime Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Steve and John - right you are ! i am typically doing a preclean with my wet/vac Nitty Gritty before sending to PVF, but not always… best to all Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerfectVinylForever Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Happy Friday, All! Thanks for the feedback. It is great to see you guys share notes regarding your observed outcomes of our Archival 3.0 process. I concur with consensus, our cleaning process won't repair scratched records. A scratch is the physical removal of vinyl material from the playing surface of the record. Cleaning won't restore the missing material. Although some report the sonic artifact has been softened a bit. That can happen when the scratch has deposited some vinyl fragments in the groove of the record. I don't want to revisit the whole "hanging chad" conversation but that is a pretty good analogy. What you may have noticed is the music can rise above the remaining surface noise. In many instances, older records with significant wear can sound better to the point of being enjoyable once again. But there are those lost causes that should be retired. Didn't one of you send in a K-Tel "Silly Songs" that, based on the condition of the record, you likely had from a very, very young age? There wasn't much hope for that one! IIRC, you all sent in records in a variety of existing conditions. Now, you have good insight of what our Archical 3.0 process can do, and what it can't overcome. I look forward to serving you in the future. -Steve Evans | Founder | Perfect Vinyl Forever, LLC www.perfectvinylforever.com 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsooner Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 As long as I like the music I’m fine with whatever unless it’s a skip. Drives me nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomicTime Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Steve - Thanks for weighing in ! i need to get tge second batch of 16 headed your way….love tge service and the improved sonics… Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmz Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Being too far away, I ordered an ultrasonic cleaner… You fellas are fortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Edwards Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Holmz, which one did you go with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmz Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Steve Edwards said: Holmz, which one did you go with? I went with the https://www.cleanervinyl.com/ for the rotisserie parts, and ordered the three frequency ultrasonic cleaner that looks the same as their’s direct out of China. Which was cheaper, 230v, and less shipping. We were packing and flew out before I had a chance to get it set up, but I was awaiting a TT belt, scale for tracking force, etc… anyhow, so iIt awaits. I am headed back in a month, so I’ll get cranking with it then. (Probably should stop by the local photoshop and get the surfactant here.) Ideally I would do that cleaning work here, as we have dehumidifiers running pretty often, so I get a couple of gallons of “distilled” water per day 😃 (I just saw that there is now a company here doing similar work where one sends the vinyl out to them…) I am open to coaching if anyone has pointers. Edited December 12, 2021 by Holmz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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