Immersive Sound

[Holmz]

2 hours ago, ursus13 said:

Totally agree with this. Getting a 5.1 or Atmos set up correctly is tricky. 

Can you elaborate please?

 

2 hours ago, ursus13 said:

As a filmmaker, I push to have a stereo mix as our hero mix, rather than a theatrical surround mix. My first film was the first Atmos mix Netflix ever did, and while it sounded pretty amazing in Sony’s Atmos mixing stage, I’m unconvinced people can recreate that environment at home. (We all know how challenging it is to get a two channel system dialed in.)

I am at a 5.0.0 currently. 
I think I can get to 5.3.2 easily.
And 5.5.4 or 5.5.5 seems possible… but trying to determine  how many Atmos channels I should shoot for in a room that is not very deep fore and aft.
(But 11’ ceilings help.

 

2 hours ago, ursus13 said:

I use our main two channel system to review mixes for projects now (Quatro CTs.) (And also on the mix stage, of course.)

For tonality and balance?
 

2 hours ago, ursus13 said:

We watched the new Dune as the first film we screened at home after getting the Quatros set up, and after the movie my wife said “I didn’t know it could sound like that at home.” This sums it up for me.

Brutha… one cannot be a prophet in their own land…  😎

[BKDad]

To paraphrase a big deal acoustic engineer, "Mo speakers, mo problems."

Oddly enough my wife and I were just speaking about this in the car.  Her summary for this (and her other examples like cooking and musical instruments) is that some people like to use more complicated solutions to get the results they want, while others prefer to refine something simpler to get the results they want.  Quality through quantity as opposed to quality through refinement.  Neither approach is universally wrong or right.   And, I am not a professional, let alone a professional filmmaker - just a ninny on the internet.

Her own opinion was that she'd rather deal with tasteful acoustic treatments where needed rather than a lot more amplifiers, wires, and speakers.  That's from the perspective of somebody who sits and listens/watches and has to look at it all and clean some of it.  FWIW, she also personally believes that a living room is where you, ahh, live, which means where you read, watch TV, listen to music, play board games, and so on.  Other beliefs certainly exist out there.

[ursus13]

16 minutes ago, Holmz said:

Can you elaborate please?

I’ve not heard a home multichannel system sound right, for my taste, other than a purpose built home theater. Certainly would never say it can’t or shouldn’t be done. From your posts, a guy with your engineering knowledge and attention to detail is the dude to get it right. Most of the people I know with a surround system would be better served investing in a properly set up a two channel system.
 

16 minutes ago, Holmz said:

For tonality and balance?

For reviewing all aspects of the mix throughout postproduction. Combination of reviewing on headphones, nearfields, and on the Quatro system. Usually in conjunction with working on the mix stage. Sometimes I only have an opportunity to review remotely. Often I’ll also review on a laptop and/or ipad, as much as it kills me many people watch on these devices. (By the time we deliver I never want to watch or hear it ever again.)

16 minutes ago, Holmz said:

Brutha… one cannot be a prophet in their own land…  😎

Nailed it.

[GdnrBob]

59 minutes ago, BKDad said:

Her summary for this (and her other examples like cooking and musical instruments) is that some people like to use more complicated solutions to get the results they want, while others prefer to refine something simpler to get the results they want.

I like your wife. Well, at least her sentiment.😉.

B

[ctsooner]

Agree with BK/wife and Bob in this.