olds1959special Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 (edited) The 2Ce Sig II's arrived. I plugged them in and am enjoying a cleaner sound with better separation, coming from my 2Ci's. And they are a little less lush and more truthful! Edited June 5 by olds1959special 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC-93 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Good choice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC-93 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Excellence! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olds1959special Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 I only have bare wire speaker cables. Does this look okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC-93 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 Spades are superior. You don't need high dollar ones. The electrons are blind and can't tell the difference as long as the connection is good! Crimp, then let solder flow into it, all the way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olds1959special Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 2 minutes ago, DC-93 said: Spades are superior. You don't need high dollar ones. The electrons are blind and can't tell the difference as long as the connection is good! Crimp, then let solder flow into it, all the way. Where can I get the right size spades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olds1959special Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 will these work? https://www.amazon.com/CESS-125-Spades-Binding-Speaker-Terminal/dp/B08K4D912W/ref=sr_1_2?crid=1UKMD77JAWFPX&dd=QkxLAtNRwe5YyBtbJhh8NA%2C%2C&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.DXmJ7h9vuIbREUWZBR7RKhDyKg03vIeq44lr-y_yoio6ri9kbz1Mg8d-ZTjSVNlXxmsCLZ8OhWcdVdpLuauYYMTUuixM-lv67nbNTlrgViH9QAEfFitx0Brl-wDdOn6-5DEGiLoe2_CJCsdlvfnbPf96kLKch23UCqBSN6_m1XBHY2NPfMlmEXs9K5bMjmhO6S0Ncx9k877ZUr8MOBMrgsai9EsMTYCVwNmz5cJuiyw.qOZFhaxlxnZXVMu1jrWs6QPP_MvfgRx6wJbHO8gbqWo&dib_tag=se&keywords=speaker%2Bspades%2Bconnectors&qid=1717601392&refinements=p_90%3A8308920011%2Cp_85%3A2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&sprefix=spades%2Bspeaker%2Caps%2C175&sr=8-2&th=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC-93 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 I got mine from ebay years ago. Got a bunch for 3 dollars, free shipping, IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olds1959special Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 I just ordered the ones in the amazon link. They are half inch size, which looks just right. They also appear to allow for screwing in the bare wire, which is great for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Vandersteen Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 39 minutes ago, olds1959special said: I just ordered the ones in the amazon link. They are half inch size, which looks just right. They also appear to allow for screwing in the bare wire, which is great for me. 1/2 inch is too wide! 7/16 inch max width. RV 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC-93 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 File them down to fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olds1959special Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Richard Vandersteen said: 1/2 inch is too wide! 7/16 inch max width. RV Thanks, I cancelled. I found some that say Size of U: 8mm, Inner 6mm. These should work, right? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MPMJRY1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1 Edited June 5 by olds1959special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olds1959special Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 will this work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Vandersteen Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 2 hours ago, olds1959special said: will this work? Not possible to know as the total width of the spade is not shown but by scale it doesn't look like it will. RV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 On 2Ce Sig.II's, the distance between connection separators averages .460", the connection screw appears to be a silver plated 10-32 which measures .190" diameter. A spade narrower than .470" with a slot larger than .190" could be a candidate. https://www.parts-express.com/ Cody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC-93 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 A good hardware store can help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmz Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 7 hours ago, olds1959special said: will this work? If the are cheap enough get some and see. A bastard, or mill bastard file, could skinny them up, The “wings” look like they are 1 to 1.5mm wide. So that would comput as 10-11 mm wide… 11-mm is close to 7/16” I’d also suggest making sure that 14ga wire fits into the hole. 9 hours ago, olds1959special said: I only have bare wire speaker cables. Does this look okay? Personally I’d be running the ones one the right hand side clockwise so that the screw tightens them in tension, and not trying to compress the wire and buckle it in compression of the strands. I should not make it sound different, but it might look a bit better. Edited June 6 by Holmz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olds1959special Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 (edited) I'll see if the spades I ordered fit. I'll probably give up and leave them bare wire if they don't. The problem with these speakers is you have to use very small spades, and usually the good ones are bigger. I can get some from the hardware store but they would not be the best quality, and I'd have to pull out my soldering iron. Is there a way I can figure out the year these Sig II's were built? The serials are 65xxx. Edited June 6 by olds1959special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Vandersteen Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 50 minutes ago, olds1959special said: I'll see if the spades I ordered fit. I'll probably give up and leave them bare wire if they don't. The problem with these speakers is you have to use very small spades, and usually the good ones are bigger. I can get some from the hardware store but they would not be the best quality, and I'd have to pull out my soldering iron. Is there a way I can figure out the year these Sig II's were built? The serials are 65xxx. Not normally true! The best sounding spades are one that have the least metal in them assuming they are RED copper with a gold or silver direct plating without nickel underneath. Better still would be a Ring lug made with the same metal and plating as they are gas tight. RV 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olds1959special Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Richard Vandersteen said: Not normally true! The best sounding spades are one that have the least metal in them assuming they are RED copper with a gold or silver direct plating without nickel underneath. Better still would be a Ring lug made with the same metal and plating as they are gas tight. RV Are the screws removable to allow for the use of ring lugs? should I get this? https://a.co/d/ifmqFiP Edited June 6 by olds1959special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 2 hours ago, olds1959special said: Are the screws removable to allow for the use of ring lugs? Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmz Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Maybe one could just pre-tin the wire with some solder, in a hook shape? If you are going to that effort, you could also get some cable boots, and then some covering and really doll em up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olds1959special Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 (edited) The spade lugs from Amazon were way too big. I’ve realized that bare wire must be fine. The connections are sufficient. I’ve tightened the screws enough, the wires are not going to fall out. Adding ring or spade lugs is not going to improve the sound. The wires are not touching, there are no shorts. It’s all psychological. Time to stop thinking about this and enjoy the sound. Edited June 7 by olds1959special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olds1959special Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 (edited) Ordered these https://a.co/d/29zqyP0 may also go to Ace Hardware for some red copper ring lugs Edited June 7 by olds1959special 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olds1959special Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 Ace hardware doesn't have red copper ring lugs. Why is bare wire a problem? I'm going to try the spade to banana plug adaptors, but wouldn't bare wire sound better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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