dsisssup Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Been out of action for some months . System hasn't been fired up since last on the forum and still faced with the issue of proper dialing in my Quatros. The wife and I tried adjusting the settings with not much luck. Have a dealer close by but they won't touch anything not purchased from them. Anyone have any ideas? At this point I'm willing to dig pretty deep to get the Quatros done. Jordan` Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrenter Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Do you have the Vandertones CD and the Radio Shack SPL meter? If so, this forum can help you through the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmz Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, dsisssup said: Have a dealer close by but they won't touch anything not purchased from them. ^That^ would pretty much suck for people that move states for work or family. What state are you in @dsisssup? (Maybe someone is close by.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsisssup Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, nrenter said: Do you have the Vandertones CD and the Radio Shack SPL meter? If so, this forum can help you through the process. Yes, and followed Richard's YouTube video . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsisssup Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, Holmz said: ^That^ would pretty much suck for people that move states for work or family. What state are you in @dsisssup? (Maybe someone is close by.) We are in NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmz Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I go to Ashville/Fletcher every year or two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomicTime Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 i can help you thru facetime. Give me a call my services are gratis . i am on Pacific time. Jim 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GdnrBob Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I find that a dealer who won't do set up unless they buy something from them is pretty short sighted, especially nowadays. Let's face it, the internet has made all but the well healed buyers of used audiophile equipment. To shun 2nd and 3rd hand owners service, seems to me, an easy way to lose potential future sales, not to mention goodwill. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonM Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 When I bought my Quatros and M5 amps, I assumed delivery and setup would be included. The setup was explained to me as a "strongly suggested $300 tip". I ended up breaking in the gear for several weeks and then doing it all myself. This seemed overwhelming at first but turned out to be pretty easy, and I understand the gear now. I did a post about doing the room EQ on my Quatros, you might search for it. I did not ask my wife for help, instead I facetime'd with an iphone and ipad, and I recommend that route also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Vandersteen Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 On 11/8/2022 at 7:10 PM, dsisssup said: We are in NC. Dsisssup, contact John at Audio Connection 973-239-1299 and ask how much it would cost to get Samier to dial the whole system. Setting up the Quatro's is not difficult, but it is also not an exact science. People needing exact instructions are not going to get it because the system doesn't totally correct for all problems just minimizes them beyond other designs. Having help from someone who has dialed many systems will always be a benefit beyond just the speaker setup RV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomicTime Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Jon is referring to using two devices mirrored or facetime so you can see the SPL meter at the listening position while adjusting the EQ pots behind the speaker. When doing this don’t be tempted to adjust to flat in one move - use the 1/3 adjustment method and as RV stated work upwards in frequency. Also, lets be clear…even with the EQ controls set factory flat you are going to get fantastic bass with prudent use of the Q and level control ! Frankly better than anything else… Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GdnrBob Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Side Track- Is setting up the Sub 3 identical or close to setting up the Quatro bass? I just got the Treo CT's and think I need to do a complete rework of my Sub 3 settings. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsisssup Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 10:42 AM, Richard Vandersteen said: Dsisssup, contact John at Audio Connection 973-239-1299 and ask how much it would cost to get Samier to dial the whole system. Setting up the Quatro's is not difficult, but it is also not an exact science. People needing exact instructions are not going to get it because the system doesn't totally correct for all problems just minimizes them beyond other designs. Having help from someone who has dialed many systems will always be a benefit beyond just the speaker setup RV. Robert Taylor and his wife adjusted the settings but the speakers were in a really bad room. My wife finally gave in and allowed me to move into a room that sounds much better and the adjustment worked better however, I changed the settings looking to dial in better settings and was unsuccessful. Can't get Robert to come back. I will give John a call, thanks. Jordan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomicTime Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 i heard he retired…. Robert. I got my ARC preamp from him. He is a gem of a guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsisssup Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 11:01 PM, TomicTime said: i heard he retired…. Robert. I got my ARC preamp from him. He is a gem of a guy. Yeah he is retired and certainly one of a kind. Working on getting him back . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsisssup Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 Good feed back. Still looking for a solution to act on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsal Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 11:01 PM, TomicTime said: i heard he retired…. Robert. I got my ARC preamp from him. He is a gem of a guy. If you are referring to John Rutan, he is not retired. Just bought my Quatros from him and Samir performed the set-up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Vandersteen Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 4:24 AM, JonM said: When I bought my Quatros and M5 amps, I assumed delivery and setup would be included. The setup was explained to me as a "strongly suggested $300 tip". I ended up breaking in the gear for several weeks and then doing it all myself. This seemed overwhelming at first but turned out to be pretty easy, and I understand the gear now. I did a post about doing the room EQ on my Quatros, you might search for it. I did not ask my wife for help, instead I facetime'd with an iphone and ipad, and I recommend that route also. JonM, this is very rare with my dealers! Normally any additional fee (tip) only happens if some significant travel is required, or it was traded for some discount in price. RV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomicTime Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 9 hours ago, Gsal said: If you are referring to John Rutan, he is not retired. Just bought my Quatros from him and Samir performed the set-up. The reference was to Robert Taylor of Taylor House audio in North Carolina. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GdnrBob Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 hour ago, TomicTime said: The reference was to Robert Taylor So, he got out of acting? Boy, he must be pretty old now.😜 B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyhat Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Having done some renovations and remodeling my listening room I am considering re-setting up my Quatro CTs. The dealer set them up initially and has offered to come back out and re-check them (for a fee I am sure) but I may try to do it myself. I have watched the video and I have a Radio Shack sound level meter. What I don't seem to have however is the little plastic adjustment tool for adjusting the pots. Either the dealer didn't leave it with me or he did and I have since lost it. I am assuming this is a generic tool that I can obtain on my own but what is it called? What is the size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stringreen Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 11/8/2022 at 7:59 PM, Holmz said: ^That^ would pretty much suck for people that move states for work or family. What state are you in @dsisssup? (Maybe someone is close by.) What kind of business is that local guy running? Surely he should charge but doing so would show you that he's interested and capable...setting up for a future sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Vandersteen Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 24 minutes ago, randyhat said: Having done some renovations and remodeling my listening room I am considering re-setting up my Quatro CTs. The dealer set them up initially and has offered to come back out and re-check them (for a fee I am sure) but I may try to do it myself. I have watched the video and I have a Radio Shack sound level meter. What I don't seem to have however is the little plastic adjustment tool for adjusting the pots. Either the dealer didn't leave it with me or he did and I have since lost it. I am assuming this is a generic tool that I can obtain on my own but what is it called? What is the size? It is a "Spectrol" tunning tool but any small screwdriver will work. Make a mark on the handle that is in line with the blade, so you have an indication when the pot is at "noon" or straight up. Use some caution turning the pot as the rotation stops are easy to break and the pots are expensive to replace. RV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKDad Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Spectrol Tool But, hurry! There’s only 20 left! 😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad O Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 On 11/11/2022 at 2:58 PM, GdnrBob said: Side Track- Is setting up the Sub 3 identical or close to setting up the Quatro bass? I just got the Treo CT's and think I need to do a complete rework of my Sub 3 settings. Bob Hi Bob, I don't know if anyone responded to this question. The main difference is the crossover point which can be set on the M5-HPB crossover using a voltmeter. The procedure is on the setup sheet found here: https://www.vandersteen.com//media/files/Manuals/SUB THREE Setup Worksheet 100821 copy.pdf Once the crossover is correct, the setup is the same as the Quatro. We are here if you need further assistance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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