Bill Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Here's something I Noticed with the Quatro and my Linn LP-12 turntable. I'm curious if anyone else experienced this. One of my pet peeves with my Linn LP-12 which I bought new in 1989 (Basik Tonearm, standard power supply power supply, K9 cartridge) is that it doesn't seem to replicate really deep bass. I'd read a fair amount of criticism of the LP-12 over the years for exactly this shortcoming so I figured I was stuck with it unless I wanted to get a different turntable. My new Quatros seem to have dispelled that. It seems like the bass was always there, its just that my speakers weren't reproducing it. (In spite of all the materials saying they should). One track where I really noticed this is on U2's "Achtung Baby", on the track "Who's Going to Ride Your Wild Horses". There is some amazing bass on that track (in the mid 20hz range I'd guess) and I would never have believed it was a Linn LP-12 delivering the signal. I wonder if this is unique the LP-12 or if there are a lot turntables out there that just need better speakers with some form of active subwoofer? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomicTime Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 how far into the song ? i can post an RTA screenshot. All the Vandy powered bass models have imo great bass…definition, tone, harmonics…slam if needed… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomicTime Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 about 2:15 in…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomicTime Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Zoo Station….. should wake the neighbors… thanks for mentioning this album, have not played it in years….brings back great memories 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratocaster Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 As much as I love U2, I find all their albums to be a little heavy on the lower frequencies especially Achtung Baby and Zooropa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, TomicTime said: Zoo Station….. should wake the neighbors… thanks for mentioning this album, have not played it in years….brings back great memories Here's a spectral chart of the song from my calibrated mic. The bass kicks in at about 1:40. 90db at 30Hz and below? I've never heard anything even close from my LP-12 before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 18, 2021 Author Share Posted June 18, 2021 15 hours ago, stratocaster said: As much as I love U2, I find all their albums to be a little heavy on the lower frequencies especially Achtung Baby and Zooropa. What!? Too much bass!? Never! XD I won't be satisfied until the local USGS seismic monitoring station calls and tells me to knock it off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewtgt Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Thanks for reminding us of this great album Bill. I'm also a deep bass lover, listening to my Quatros play the song "Tryin' to throw your arms around the world" feels like bathing in a sweet rumble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsooner Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Once I put RIchards amp In with Quatro’s, the bass turned even more glorious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) Upgrade your LP-12. I had one for almost 40 years. The Keel subchassis and the Lingo power supply are a huge improvement. I went as far as the Radikal, which really was worth it. Also, upgrade the tonearm. An Ittok will be a big improvement. An Ekos even bigger. You've got a good starting point. Then you'll get bass with definition. You might find another octave, too. Edited November 6, 2021 by Moose spell check changed subchassis to subclasses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsooner Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 I love the Linn. Really do. The fact that you can still upgrade is awesome and a great way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Edwards Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Interesting (and encouraging) to hear you say that Peter. I've had my Linn almost 30 years, and while I've done numerous upgrades, there are newer ones that I'm assuming are significant. Periodically, I think about changing tables, but in the price range of the models that appeal to me (VPI, Rega & Dr Feickert to name a few), I could add the Radikal, the Keel, an Ekos SE and probably still have some cabbage left for a new cartridge! Other than just the mere attraction of having something that looks & feels different, I'm not sure if there would be any sonic improvements. Oh, the trials and tribulations of a hopeless audiophiliac ...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsooner Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Guys, I had adn sold my entry level Basis to Jim when I realized I couldn't keep up with vinyl anymore (boy do I miss it greatly). I LOVE the Basis tables. Best bang for buck that I've heard to be frank. Just THAT good. That said, I was at Gifted Listener in VA (now gone) and auditioned the Linn vs the top Rega. Not sure of the cart, but the Linn just smoked the Rega. It was so much fuller and right. I couldn't get a Rega after that and it's how I got Johnny to sell me his last Basis that was NOS. I'm blessed to have owned it. I feel pretty strongly that there are some GREAT TT's out there and it's about budget and what you like to use. Hey, the Project tables in their ranges are outstanding. I LOVE the Clearaudio stuff. Just amazing. I have enjoyed the MoFi tables when I've heard them as well. I personally like a simple look and set up. AJ Conte used to talk about keeping it simple and being meticulous in the engineering and build. It works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Edwards Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Hi Peter, your insight / observations on so many familiar products is appreciated. The Rega Planer 10 has been on my radar as well. I do find it interesting how varied turntable design is. We have ultra lights (Rega), spring suspensions (Linn), and mega heavy designs (VPI 40th Anniversary @ 70 lbs - and there are many more much heavier). As the saying goes, 'there are so many paths up the mountain, but the view from the top is still the same" .............. does have me wondering about the validity of all these theories. In the meantime, I'll just be grateful for and appreciate my old Linn. Play on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsooner Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Find what you love and enjoy it. That's teh MOST important part of this whole hobby. As much as we Vandy fans love our GEAR, we love our music as much or more. Especially live. We have that in common with my Thiel buddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GdnrBob Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 @ctsooner,I still have my Linn Basik, if you ever want to listen again. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsooner Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Bob, that would be fun, I really do miss vinyl. I"m always looking at the less expensive tables from Project and even the Clearaudio with the built in phono stage. I know I can't do it, but I want to, lol. ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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