ctsooner 61 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Johnny Rutan from Audio Connections in Verona NJ Told me to hang a couple of pretty quilts on the wall where the first reflection is. That’s made a huge difference. Have any small changes made a difference in your room? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corey Layton 6 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I love the Stillpoints Aperture panels. They work extremely well and to be extremely effective for their smaller size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ctsooner 61 Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 Further research on them. I only have a couple small points in my room that I need to play with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andrewtgt 5 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 For treating first wall reflections high density fiberglass or rockwool absorber panels do a fine enough job. Quilts aren't usually thick enough to do the job correctly since they only absorb high frequencies, but they're still a lot better than nothing. In all honesty room choice and its treatment are almost as important as choosing speakers. It can be modeled to a degree ( http://www.acousticmodelling.com for instance offers some basic modeling tools), but most of it needs to be measured in order to achieve optimal results. A decent USB omni-directional calibrated microphone can be had for less than $100 and some great software like Room EQ Wizard is actually freeware. Having these basic tools empowers you to know exactly what effect acoustic treatment products have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ctsooner 61 Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Thanks for sharing. I don't have any bass issues as I have a very open loft. Johnny Rutan came to set up and calibrate the room. The quilts make a nice difference. I don't have a dedicated room, but my wife puts up with a lot. That said, she's not keen on wall treatments, even the ones I have that you can have pictures on. Just something I deal with, lol. It's all good though since the room sounds decent without treatments. I don't even have a slap echo problem, so I don't 'worry about treating the ceiling. I believe there is a 99% chance that would be vetoed quickly, lol. :). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sunil Merchant 11 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Stillpoints panels are a real deal. Very effective. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ctsooner 61 Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 I need to price things out and see how they look. I do know I need something on the rear walls to diffract. I may see what side wall deals to use too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corey Layton 6 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, ctsooner said: I need to price things out and see how they look. I do know I need something on the rear walls to diffract. I may see what side wall deals to use too Dont let their small size fool you. They are like little blackholes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ctsooner 61 Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 do they absorb or diffract or both? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corey Layton 6 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, ctsooner said: do they absorb or diffract or both? They are an absorber, diffuser, and resonator depending on the frequency and volume. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ctsooner 61 Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 Yes, just saw that. I'd make my own wood stand to match them. I need to see which of my dealers sells them. I like the idea of a stand to put them on the back wall and then I can move them when needed. Not sure if I'd need three or if I can just use two and leave the bottom open. I'm sure the dealers will know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ctsooner 61 Posted October 3, 2020 Author Share Posted October 3, 2020 I"m starting to get very intrigued about about treatment now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Edwards 76 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 ct, ceilings can also be an issue. In his infinite wisdom, Johnny Rutan also gave me a tip on ceiling reflections. Tape or glue an old cd (shiny side facing out) to a yardstick. With someone on a ladder, holding the stick against the ceiling, sit at your listening position and point a laser at the cd. By moving it around, find the spot where the laser reflects off of the disc right onto your tweeter. That is the spot on the ceiling you want to put a diffuser. I used to use bathroom floor mats. I've since upgraded ☺️ to egg crate-like mattress pads. Disclaimer: huge amounts of WAF required Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ctsooner 61 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 very interesting. NOTHING will be allowed on my ceiling though, lol...WAF ;). I don't think I have a major issue with that though. My old house wasn't kind and I DID have a diffuser where it was needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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